With the reset tonight that brings an end to our first week of raiding as a 25m raid and my thoughts are mixed but I am quite possibly leaning, based on this weeks experience, to not being a fan of 25m. Hopefully a few more weeks will bring better results and a bit more familiarity so my views on it may change. However, these are my initial thoughts.
There’s a s a combination of reasons why I’m not a fan. It ranges from little things like I’m used to Vuhdo being quite large when there are only 10 panels, so I’m going to have to have a play with the sizing of Vuhdo and become comfortable with a smaller layout because 25 panels takes up a lot of screen space.
And some bigger things; organising 25 people is like herding cats. Pulls take a lot longer to organise; someone always wants to go afk for some reason. We’ve gone from a group that doesn’t take breaks in our raid times to having a lot of breaks and this is probably something that will iron out in time but still it’s incredibly frustrating to hear someone want to go for a smoke or someone has to go grab a drink right after what feels like a break a pull ago. It really adds up. Maybe I’ve got spoilt being with 10 people who like to just stay and raid for the raid time rather than take breaks.
Personalities – oh wow there are a lot more of them now obviously. Not everyone is as easy-going as the original 10. We ended up with some drama last night when one of the new raiders was obviously unhappy with the progression and decided to address this by deciding he would be a better raid leader; however he wasn’t very constructive in that his style of leading was to make himself the only voice that could be heard, speaking over the actual raid leader during the pulls and to throw a lot of F words around at the raid with a lot of negative and angry comments about the abilities of players after wipes. He ended up being removed part of the way through the raid but stayed long enough on vent to spew some particularly vile comments. Honestly the attitude he was spouting last night I don’t understand. Our original team raided heroic progression in ToT and despite frustration abounding at time, we never spoke to each other in the way that this person seemed to think it was appropriate to speak.
Progression – this is a tough one. We’re stuck on 25m on the 9th boss. So I guess for a new team that’s only just started in a 25m format 8 bosses in the first week is possibly quite good. However, we’ve been on this boss for 2 nights now and in the 10m format he was down after 3 pulls so from that respect it’s not good. 25 people should mean that there are enough ppl to stand in what needs to stand in and avoid what needs to not be stood in and to dispel at the right time but it didn’t seem to happen that way at all. It was only on the last couple of pulls that we got incredibly close ~2% wipes on the last 2 attempts of the night and both times they ended to a bad dispel in the stacked raid causing a raid wipe. Tbh this is a big point in my books, what is the point of doing 25m format if we can’t clear content that our 10m not only cleared but did so with a lot of ease.
Too many healers – I guess this is something that will come in time but after so many months of raiding with the same 2 healers I got to know when they would use an ability or what action they would likely take and plan my actions/cds around them and they were probably doing the same. And when we were 2 healing the content it was even easier because I only really had to think about 1 other healer and what they might do. Now I have 5 other people to consider and when half of them don’t talk on vent or call putting down a big cd or if they aren’t in range of someone or whatnot, the tiny things that the 3 of us were used to calling to each other, it’s a bit frustrating.
That also leads into too many people in general, 10 people on vent even if they are chatty are not overwhelming. However with 25; there are some very chatty people who seem to want to comment on everything and it just comes across as a bit too much at times.
So that pretty much wraps up how I feel about 25m raiding so far. Really not a fan in these early days but as I do like my guild and my original raid team I’m willing to stick it out longer, it really is only early days and it will probably take a few weeks to settle in. It will be interesting to see what I think of 25 in a few weeks time. I’ll let you know.